<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Any Men&#8217;s Ministry Ideas?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/</link>
	<description>Marriage, Faith, and Technology... Let's Talk!</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:14:57 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Todd Kuramoto</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-72091</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Kuramoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-72091</guid>
		<description>All,
Thanks for all the insight.  It is really helpful with some fantastic ideas.

My role has grown from facilitator to more of a leadership role for my church&#039;s Men&#039;s Ministry.  It&#039;s grown from averaging about ten 1.5 years ago, to now between 14 and 20.  Believe it or not, one of the great promotions is the fact that we have a guy who loves to cook and often makes something delicious... Our format is simple:

8-8:20ish fellowship and eating
8:20 - 8:40 prayer, new business (discuss things like: habitat for humanity participation, etc..), and group discussion of meeting topic including scripture 
8:40 - 9:15 break into groups of 3-4 to discuss questions
9:15 - 9:30 big group discussion, joys/concerns, any other suggestions, prayer

We&#039;ll consider more outreach (we have 4-8 who attend a church in a bad section of Cincinnati once a month to prepare and serve breakfast to about 300-350 homeless), and other events to encourage bonding/greater participation.  I have great support from our Pastor... Thanks again for all the ideas..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,<br />
Thanks for all the insight.  It is really helpful with some fantastic ideas.</p>
<p>My role has grown from facilitator to more of a leadership role for my church&#8217;s Men&#8217;s Ministry.  It&#8217;s grown from averaging about ten 1.5 years ago, to now between 14 and 20.  Believe it or not, one of the great promotions is the fact that we have a guy who loves to cook and often makes something delicious&#8230; Our format is simple:</p>
<p>8-8:20ish fellowship and eating<br />
8:20 &#8211; 8:40 prayer, new business (discuss things like: habitat for humanity participation, etc..), and group discussion of meeting topic including scripture<br />
8:40 &#8211; 9:15 break into groups of 3-4 to discuss questions<br />
9:15 &#8211; 9:30 big group discussion, joys/concerns, any other suggestions, prayer</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll consider more outreach (we have 4-8 who attend a church in a bad section of Cincinnati once a month to prepare and serve breakfast to about 300-350 homeless), and other events to encourage bonding/greater participation.  I have great support from our Pastor&#8230; Thanks again for all the ideas..</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Randy Willmon</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-72047</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Willmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-72047</guid>
		<description>Thanks for all the great comments and ideas for men&#039;s ministry. I am currently leading a men&#039;s ministry team that has about 8 guys on it. I highly encourage a team to lead. Not fair for one man to do everything. I want to recommend another great book to use. It&#039;s called The Pursuit of God, by A.W. Tozer. We are starting this class on Jan 8, 2012 with about 70 men signed up. Please read this book. Published in 1948 and very current for today. I will try and post back soon how the Pursuit of God class is going.
Blessings to all the men out there.
Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the great comments and ideas for men&#8217;s ministry. I am currently leading a men&#8217;s ministry team that has about 8 guys on it. I highly encourage a team to lead. Not fair for one man to do everything. I want to recommend another great book to use. It&#8217;s called The Pursuit of God, by A.W. Tozer. We are starting this class on Jan 8, 2012 with about 70 men signed up. Please read this book. Published in 1948 and very current for today. I will try and post back soon how the Pursuit of God class is going.<br />
Blessings to all the men out there.<br />
Randy</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dennis King</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-65359</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-65359</guid>
		<description>Why Men Hate Going to Church 
To all men&#039;s ministry leaders.  &quot;Why Men Hate Going to Church&quot; is a must read for all of you!
It offers some great insight into doing things that really challenge men to be involved and find purpose.
It will fire you up and re energize you for men&#039;s ministry. 

It was recommended at the top of this blog.  Thanks!!
www.mightybuiltministries.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Men Hate Going to Church<br />
To all men&#8217;s ministry leaders.  &#8220;Why Men Hate Going to Church&#8221; is a must read for all of you!<br />
It offers some great insight into doing things that really challenge men to be involved and find purpose.<br />
It will fire you up and re energize you for men&#8217;s ministry. </p>
<p>It was recommended at the top of this blog.  Thanks!!<br />
<a href="http://www.mightybuiltministries.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mightybuiltministries.com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dedrick</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-65051</link>
		<dc:creator>Dedrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-65051</guid>
		<description>This  is great,i love everyone ideals we have started a men ministry at our church in it 
just started we our bulding a monthly events if any ideals or thoughts email me @browderdedrick@yahoo.com
Op</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  is great,i love everyone ideals we have started a men ministry at our church in it<br />
just started we our bulding a monthly events if any ideals or thoughts email me @browderdedrick@yahoo.com<br />
Op</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dennis King</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-64694</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-64694</guid>
		<description>Great site!!
I plan to revisit often.  I am involved in a men&#039;s ministry in Tennessee.  Our goal is to encourage men and to offer ideas to help men&#039;s ministry directors to build and keep strong men&#039;s ministries that are ministering and touching lives year after year.  
Leave your ideas.  I&#039;ll be back!  Thanks for setting this up.  We will pass on this link.
dennisking52</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site!!<br />
I plan to revisit often.  I am involved in a men&#8217;s ministry in Tennessee.  Our goal is to encourage men and to offer ideas to help men&#8217;s ministry directors to build and keep strong men&#8217;s ministries that are ministering and touching lives year after year.<br />
Leave your ideas.  I&#8217;ll be back!  Thanks for setting this up.  We will pass on this link.<br />
dennisking52</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-63269</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-63269</guid>
		<description>Well what an awesome group of men interested in Christian Men&#039;s Fellowships. There are numerous good ideas on this blog that can be mixed and matched to group types. My career background was in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and before coming to Christ Jesus I had also come out of freemasonry - bl,yr,sr and numerous allied degrees. Praise the Lord renounced it all. That was Oct 1998. A few weeks ago I was asked to head up the men&#039;s ministry at Church. Well were did I start - prayer, find out the age range, research other groups for topic ideas, bounced ideas - brain stormed with the men, sourced team members sound in scripture and reliable representing the target age group 18 onwards. What was good to hear on this blog is book resources - I so enjoy John Bevere, I think I have his whole library along with Joyce Meyers. Wild at Heart by Eldrige reframed Christ centred manhood for me and it will be on our resource list. I have also instructed our librarian to stock our Christian bookshop with books relating to men including study material. I am perusing Every Man God&#039;s Man, Stephen Arterburn &amp; Kenny Luck - comes with book and study guides (centred on Couragious Faith and Daily Integrity). A combination of intentional Bible study topic, men team building events - like the idea of bringing in  a Chef to teach BBQ skills and being purposeful in our Faith by our works like helping the needy in our community.
My observations of Christian Brothers in Christ is much as what I hear on this blog. Men do appreciate consistent leadership, not everyone is a Chief Supt, most remain the troops but they are invaluable to the whole of the team. Each person, team member wants know they are of value to the team and as such need to be aforded time to express themselves - like the idea they can do a short talk about themselves with questions at the end of the talk. It comes down to friendship - being there for each other, knowing each other and who can contribute what to the whole of the team, being respectful, having the highest sense of trust and confidentciality with others, acknowledges for their input and not lost in the system, bringing forward the least in the group to help them feel the most.
Programs dont make a group as much as the group mateship makes the program. This needs to be fostered outside of the meeting and extended into our interpersonal connections weekly without being intrusive into family obligations. We dont want to burn out. Friendship is easy its casual, you know the person is there for you if needed, its fun - long weekends and special events foster getting together having a good conversation, being able to ask &quot;how is your soul whats new in your walk with Christ Jesus&quot;. If a group can foster interpersonal Christian relationships then to me I thing a Christian Mens Group has achieved its purpose - bible studies, events fosters growth enhancing Christian maturing.
God Bless everyone
In Christ Jesus
Daniel (mp72trp18)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what an awesome group of men interested in Christian Men&#8217;s Fellowships. There are numerous good ideas on this blog that can be mixed and matched to group types. My career background was in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and before coming to Christ Jesus I had also come out of freemasonry &#8211; bl,yr,sr and numerous allied degrees. Praise the Lord renounced it all. That was Oct 1998. A few weeks ago I was asked to head up the men&#8217;s ministry at Church. Well were did I start &#8211; prayer, find out the age range, research other groups for topic ideas, bounced ideas &#8211; brain stormed with the men, sourced team members sound in scripture and reliable representing the target age group 18 onwards. What was good to hear on this blog is book resources &#8211; I so enjoy John Bevere, I think I have his whole library along with Joyce Meyers. Wild at Heart by Eldrige reframed Christ centred manhood for me and it will be on our resource list. I have also instructed our librarian to stock our Christian bookshop with books relating to men including study material. I am perusing Every Man God&#8217;s Man, Stephen Arterburn &amp; Kenny Luck &#8211; comes with book and study guides (centred on Couragious Faith and Daily Integrity). A combination of intentional Bible study topic, men team building events &#8211; like the idea of bringing in  a Chef to teach BBQ skills and being purposeful in our Faith by our works like helping the needy in our community.<br />
My observations of Christian Brothers in Christ is much as what I hear on this blog. Men do appreciate consistent leadership, not everyone is a Chief Supt, most remain the troops but they are invaluable to the whole of the team. Each person, team member wants know they are of value to the team and as such need to be aforded time to express themselves &#8211; like the idea they can do a short talk about themselves with questions at the end of the talk. It comes down to friendship &#8211; being there for each other, knowing each other and who can contribute what to the whole of the team, being respectful, having the highest sense of trust and confidentciality with others, acknowledges for their input and not lost in the system, bringing forward the least in the group to help them feel the most.<br />
Programs dont make a group as much as the group mateship makes the program. This needs to be fostered outside of the meeting and extended into our interpersonal connections weekly without being intrusive into family obligations. We dont want to burn out. Friendship is easy its casual, you know the person is there for you if needed, its fun &#8211; long weekends and special events foster getting together having a good conversation, being able to ask &#8220;how is your soul whats new in your walk with Christ Jesus&#8221;. If a group can foster interpersonal Christian relationships then to me I thing a Christian Mens Group has achieved its purpose &#8211; bible studies, events fosters growth enhancing Christian maturing.<br />
God Bless everyone<br />
In Christ Jesus<br />
Daniel (mp72trp18)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-63249</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-63249</guid>
		<description>Hi Guys, I am from the UK. 
It’s an encouraging and informative site, thanks for your honesty and great ideas.
I have been involved in men’s ministries for some years. I have witnessed various men&#039;s ‘ministries’ come and go. 
I am the most unlikely guy to head up men’s groups, I am a pretty sensitive guy not overly confident, allot of guys know more of the scriptures then I do, but God often chooses the weak person to do the impossible.
One of the &#039;golden threads&#039; that have brought men together over the years in our church has been prayer, women mostly praying for men.I know that this is basic but often this commitment can be lacking in developing good foundations for stirring men’s hearts into action.
I have recently started a men’s prayer group just praying for men, meeting once a week called ‘Heart for men&#039; Open to all. We are few in number but believe that prayer has to be the key to reaching men. 
We have also been meeting every Saturday morning, and once a month we have a breakfast inviting others to join us. We try and keep the meetings very simple and focused, we make time to chat, and then invite the Holy Spirit to lay on our hearts words for each other, these maybe prayers for healing, encouragement, strengthening, release etc.
Also since April we have started a social programme for men called &#039;planks&#039; which has prompted some comments and interest. Thick as....
I know God is calling men to himself; some guys are on the fringes, some way off, some who we see in church every Sunday. How we do it may be very different but we do need each other to bear fruit. Thanks guys for all you are doing.  Hebrews10: 19-25
Some good readings are...Finishing Strong by Steve Farrar. I am Your Father by Mark stibbe.Healing the masculine soul by Gordon Dalby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys, I am from the UK.<br />
It’s an encouraging and informative site, thanks for your honesty and great ideas.<br />
I have been involved in men’s ministries for some years. I have witnessed various men&#8217;s ‘ministries’ come and go.<br />
I am the most unlikely guy to head up men’s groups, I am a pretty sensitive guy not overly confident, allot of guys know more of the scriptures then I do, but God often chooses the weak person to do the impossible.<br />
One of the &#8216;golden threads&#8217; that have brought men together over the years in our church has been prayer, women mostly praying for men.I know that this is basic but often this commitment can be lacking in developing good foundations for stirring men’s hearts into action.<br />
I have recently started a men’s prayer group just praying for men, meeting once a week called ‘Heart for men&#8217; Open to all. We are few in number but believe that prayer has to be the key to reaching men.<br />
We have also been meeting every Saturday morning, and once a month we have a breakfast inviting others to join us. We try and keep the meetings very simple and focused, we make time to chat, and then invite the Holy Spirit to lay on our hearts words for each other, these maybe prayers for healing, encouragement, strengthening, release etc.<br />
Also since April we have started a social programme for men called &#8216;planks&#8217; which has prompted some comments and interest. Thick as&#8230;.<br />
I know God is calling men to himself; some guys are on the fringes, some way off, some who we see in church every Sunday. How we do it may be very different but we do need each other to bear fruit. Thanks guys for all you are doing.  Hebrews10: 19-25<br />
Some good readings are&#8230;Finishing Strong by Steve Farrar. I am Your Father by Mark stibbe.Healing the masculine soul by Gordon Dalby.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ral</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-61676</link>
		<dc:creator>Ral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-61676</guid>
		<description>I was so very richly blessed by reading all the entries above. I’m the webmaster at my church and do a few other things too. I’m unable to participate in much because of leg and feet issues as well as a back injury. I’m way over the hill anyway. As I read the entries, I felt the deep, dedicated love for God that each writer assuredly has and it was very heart warming. I ran a search on google for men&#039;s ministries, to try to help the men&#039;s group. I copied most of the entries and printed them out to share my rich blessing with our group. I usually do awake each morning with a Christian song in my heart and I did this morning but for some reason, I remembered a dedication song that I hadn’t sung in decades “Living for Jesus”. I love this song and although I hadn’t sung it in many, many years, I remembered it (most of it). I love to sing but cannot carry a tune so that makes me a bad singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so very richly blessed by reading all the entries above. I’m the webmaster at my church and do a few other things too. I’m unable to participate in much because of leg and feet issues as well as a back injury. I’m way over the hill anyway. As I read the entries, I felt the deep, dedicated love for God that each writer assuredly has and it was very heart warming. I ran a search on google for men&#8217;s ministries, to try to help the men&#8217;s group. I copied most of the entries and printed them out to share my rich blessing with our group. I usually do awake each morning with a Christian song in my heart and I did this morning but for some reason, I remembered a dedication song that I hadn’t sung in decades “Living for Jesus”. I love this song and although I hadn’t sung it in many, many years, I remembered it (most of it). I love to sing but cannot carry a tune so that makes me a bad singer.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sambambi Benny</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-61432</link>
		<dc:creator>Sambambi Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-61432</guid>
		<description>I  was assigned to start a men&#039;s fellowship ministry at our local church in ,Lusaka, Zambia. I have found this site very encouraging.The fellowship has started but need more information on ideas and activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  was assigned to start a men&#8217;s fellowship ministry at our local church in ,Lusaka, Zambia. I have found this site very encouraging.The fellowship has started but need more information on ideas and activities.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/comment-page-2/#comment-50939</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.brauchtalk.com/any-mens-ministry-ideas/#comment-50939</guid>
		<description>Hi guys from Auckland,New Zealand,

I started a Men&#039;s dinner group 3 years ago in my home church.  I preached twice on men in the church to the congregation using various material mostly from &quot;Why men hate going to church&quot;.  The biggest response was from the women who wanted their men involved and looked after.  A core group of men were also keen to do something. I held meetings in my home with guys to discuss and bat ideas around.  We had age 18 to 82 attend and decided to start slowly with a monthly mens dinner. It is hosted in a different home every month, the guy cooks - even if it is only baked beans and fried eggs on toast! I had to &quot;encourage&quot; the hosts wife to go out for the evening in some instances. Over the 3.5 years we miss only December and January - holiday time here. We have had some 50 men in the group with between 12  and 25 attending each month. We also had a smaller group meeting for informal discussion on knotty topics they suggested, this has fallen away.  We do not do bible study as most men belong or can belong to some homegroup or other. We have a short devotion and prayer at the dinner but deliberately keep it as not too overtly &quot;religious&quot;  We have some amazing evenings. I have encouraged men not to do testimonies as such, but to introduce themselves in a 5 minute &quot;this is my life&quot; focusing on their origins, their occupation/profession, thier hobbies etc.  They will often mention their faith and how they became a christian but very casual.  Then they take questions. They love it.  We don&#039;t do it every time to keep it fresh. Some nights I tell them nothing is organised - just ask what have they been up to.  Men talk about what is on their minds from fast cars, things happening in the church or community, fishing etc - within minutes there is a constant buzz of conversation from naturally forming groups as guys move around talking with each other. We charge $10 a head for food which goes to the host to cover costs. IT is BYO for any drinks and most guys would bring a couple of beers or a bottle of wine which is mostly shared or left behind unfinished.  One of the churchs fears was it would become a drinking group.  It definitely has not. The guys pride themselves on being both trusted and responsible. We have done some fishing trips and also organized a Christmas Church Family Picnic. In our fourth year I am about to try taking it to the next level from a platform where the guys know each other better and have some basis for trust.  Some guys have stopped coming as they see it as frivolous or lackiing in spiritual depth. They stick to their homegroups and bible study groups, or not. The dinner night is also where we get guests and friends of the men brought along.  We see at as an entrance oppotunity to both church and faith. Hope this helps.  Post your email if you would like to talk further.  John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys from Auckland,New Zealand,</p>
<p>I started a Men&#8217;s dinner group 3 years ago in my home church.  I preached twice on men in the church to the congregation using various material mostly from &#8220;Why men hate going to church&#8221;.  The biggest response was from the women who wanted their men involved and looked after.  A core group of men were also keen to do something. I held meetings in my home with guys to discuss and bat ideas around.  We had age 18 to 82 attend and decided to start slowly with a monthly mens dinner. It is hosted in a different home every month, the guy cooks &#8211; even if it is only baked beans and fried eggs on toast! I had to &#8220;encourage&#8221; the hosts wife to go out for the evening in some instances. Over the 3.5 years we miss only December and January &#8211; holiday time here. We have had some 50 men in the group with between 12  and 25 attending each month. We also had a smaller group meeting for informal discussion on knotty topics they suggested, this has fallen away.  We do not do bible study as most men belong or can belong to some homegroup or other. We have a short devotion and prayer at the dinner but deliberately keep it as not too overtly &#8220;religious&#8221;  We have some amazing evenings. I have encouraged men not to do testimonies as such, but to introduce themselves in a 5 minute &#8220;this is my life&#8221; focusing on their origins, their occupation/profession, thier hobbies etc.  They will often mention their faith and how they became a christian but very casual.  Then they take questions. They love it.  We don&#8217;t do it every time to keep it fresh. Some nights I tell them nothing is organised &#8211; just ask what have they been up to.  Men talk about what is on their minds from fast cars, things happening in the church or community, fishing etc &#8211; within minutes there is a constant buzz of conversation from naturally forming groups as guys move around talking with each other. We charge $10 a head for food which goes to the host to cover costs. IT is BYO for any drinks and most guys would bring a couple of beers or a bottle of wine which is mostly shared or left behind unfinished.  One of the churchs fears was it would become a drinking group.  It definitely has not. The guys pride themselves on being both trusted and responsible. We have done some fishing trips and also organized a Christmas Church Family Picnic. In our fourth year I am about to try taking it to the next level from a platform where the guys know each other better and have some basis for trust.  Some guys have stopped coming as they see it as frivolous or lackiing in spiritual depth. They stick to their homegroups and bible study groups, or not. The dinner night is also where we get guests and friends of the men brought along.  We see at as an entrance oppotunity to both church and faith. Hope this helps.  Post your email if you would like to talk further.  John</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

